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I wanted to start a thread that lists the bad places to lock up bikes around town. A "bad place" is somewhere you spend a lot of time and see a lot of broken bike locks and mangled frames or where your friends have had their bikes stolen. A lot of times there is a safer place to lock your bike up just a block or two away that you wouldn't know about unless you lived or worked in the area.
I work at SE 7th and Ankeny
Bad Area: South of Burnside to Stark and East of Grand until 12th.
Safer Alternative: If you're coming into the area, lock your bike up on Burnside.
in front of the downtown library
or anywhere without a fahgedaboutit
How do you guys usually lock up? I usually use a fahgedaboutit U lock Sheldon Brown-style through the rear wheel in the rear triangle. Kind of worried about my front wheel, though, especially if I decide to get a nicer wheel set. Sometimes I carry a cable that I use to secure the front wheel to the U lock, but that's only going to deter people carrying around a wrench.
Use mini-U, through rear triangle as carbonbased says. I don't sweat the front wheel too much if I follow these other tips:
1) Pick high traffic areas, or spots with high visibility...
2) lock up near/around other bikes that are better or easier targets (using cables).
3) never leave it overnight.
4) depending on venue, try to bring it in with me....
Spots I avoid if I can:
- downtown, waterfront
- dark, lightly traveled areas
white folks:in front of the downtown library
or anywhere without a fahgedaboutit
isn't that sort of ovekill unless you're going to be inside for a long time? i've never left my bike out too long, but i've always been fine with a krypto min-u, including often freelocking for hours at bars, etc.
I don't know about the Sheldon Brown lock method. I had a friend who had his bike stolen this way. Granted, it was locked up overnight somewhere, but if you deflate the tire you can cut the rim pretty easily.
I've been using an onguard lock through the rear wheel and seat tube and a cable lock on the front wheel.
in front of rotture (eastside industrial area)...
I see broken locks @ Powells sometimes.
I don't trust the Sheldon style locking method. It's just as easy to lock the rear seat stay with the rim and not chance it, which is how I do it usually if I'm not locking the front rim/frame.
But yeah, the best advice is definitely to look next to easier to steal bikes...
I mentioned the library because like 2 weeks ago I was leaving/unlocking and there was a guy near tears holding the remnants of a krypto chain lock, (the $100 one with the mini u-lock to hold the 2 ends) His $1000 norco...gone. No witnesses to what had to be a big guy with BIG red bolt cutters. I've also seen multiple peopkle come out to find lights, fenders, saddles etc.. jacked. All junkies and tweakers use the shitters to shoot dope, I see 'em all the time there.
Locks, even the Krypto NYC models only keep honest people honest. A determined thief will get thru anything. Even the fagedaboutit will snap will a hydraulic ram, taken out of roller type floor jack (for cars) and those jacks are just about everywhere, $20 gets a new one at harbor freight. Bolt cutters are available that can cut tool steel are less than $100.
I lock my front wheel and frame cuz I have a road wheel with QR up front.
Now that being said, I've had the same u-lock for 10 years, the infamous bic-pen-able kryptonite. Only the cheaper u-locks with 4 tumblers can get bic'd. If your still rocking the old skool round key krypto, take a look at the key? if it has less than 7 lil kerfs in it, get a new lock.
Best bet is to bring it inside.
Never leave it over night.
Though tempting, always lock it. Even if your "just gonna be a sec" You can ride 2 blocks in the time it takes to dial a phone number.
Always lock it to something where if someone was f*cking with it, folks would notice. i.e. not in front of the library.
Freelocking only at the stumptown on 3rd where everyone knows who should be with which bike.
Im an advocate of always locking your bike, especially to something. My friends will leave their bikes out to run inside the Plaid Pantry and I always think 'its only a matter of time till some crackhead has a new bike'.
If youre gonna leave it outside for awhile, put somewhere either very visible or very hidden. Outside of a bar is always a little sketchy or in well traveled areas where people with less to lose frequent. I usually try to lock my rear wheel and frame. If I have a quick release front wheel I bring an extra cable or just dont leave it for more than a few minutes.
The worst places to lock up in my opinion are on the edges of downtown, like right near 405 or near water front. There are a couple areas of SE that seem a little sketchy and I just try and keep my eye out.
I'm pretty impressed with how few unsafe places there are to lock your bike up in this town. Just be smart about it and you should be ok. And as it has been said before, if someone really wants your bike, they will take it. Period.
I caught a dude trying to bust my ulock (i lock up the back wheel and frame and run a cable around the front wheel to the ulock) on my redline when I was in class at PNCA.. I left early (at least i went to class that day, no longer go).. and the dude is trying to jimmy the damn lock.. he put some pretty good scratches on my pink deep vs 2 days after i put them on.. bastard! I know i looked crazy but i have a MASSIVE carabiner (i keep my keeps on a huge one.. doubles as ghetto ass brass knuckles.. i'm a little girl.. i need all the help i can get)..and i put it around my fingers and just started bolting towards him.. i must have looked crazed cuz the dude took off quick! i'm not saying that is typically a bad spot to lock up.. just not a good day.
i think i would snap if i saw someone doing that...just honestly. had a good test run though a while back, i was locked up in front of the safeway on woodstock and i walked up and a dude is down looking at my bike. i saw this and walked up to him and the other dude standing there and gave a 'whats up guys?' awkwardly loud. he looked really surprised, stood up gave a nod and walked away, i then noticed that he was wearing a bike pack, so i was glad i didnt freak on a fellow rider who might have been just checkin out my wheels, etc. but man, something primal hits you when you see what you think is someone trying to get at your bike. I had one stoled once from our backyard its a terrible feeling to realize it is gone.
nothing i hate more than a bike thief, they could just as easily steal from a corporation, like krogers or safeway, but they take someone pride n joy, lame.
Two tweekers were trying to sell a tiny like 50cm pista to me and my GF about 4 months ago at Sandy and 30th. We called the cops all discreet like but they never came. I should just bought to get it back to the rightful owner, but it was rent day and I couldn't spare the dough.
When I was 9 I had my bike stolen from in front of the Cedar Mill Library. The lock was full of mud and didn't work, but I figured it was okay anyway. It wasn't. So if you're doing some hardcore book borrowing in the suburbs beware that spot.
GET INSURANCE ON YOUR BIKES!!!!!
it's cheap. I know I should do this soon....until then nothing is safe.
I actually bought rental insurance a few years back... It ended up costing me an extra $3 a month through my car insurance company and covers everything i (and my girlfriend) own.
I have QR on both wheels so I use two Kryptonite U-Locks, one to lock the frame and front wheel to a pole or whatever, and one to lock the back wheel to the frame. I take my lights off because I've had them jacked one too many times. Maybe my two locks is overkill but I work at SW 6th and Burnside downtown and that is a shitty place to put your bike (in front of Big Pink). I've called building security on probably ten different crackheads who were eyeing bikes locked up in the four months I've worked here.
Good to know: if you're downtown in that area, there is a parking garage on 5th (between Burnside and Ankeny) for the building (Big Pink, where Portland City Grill is) that has an area for bikes to be locked up. It's underground and provides a little more protection since your bike isn't just sitting somewhere on the street. It's really hidden - walk your bike down the parking garage entrance and take a left, it's on the left another 300 feet up or so, past the elevators. Good to know for messengers who drop stuff up in that building.
I don't think that's overkill. Half the bikes I see around here locked to poles are missing a front or back wheel. Last Friday I stumbled into My Father's Place at 1am and saw a Vanilla Speedvagen locked up to a pole with a cable lock.. WTF, that couldn't have lasted more than 30 minutes.
Funny you should say that, because I saw a frame, completely ravaged in front of fathers....still locked to the pole.
let's just create a vigilante hit squad and get the message out that if you have the balls to try to steal a locked bike, we'll find you and take em from you.
;)
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