veceseaux:

i saw jains in india. some, when they walk, will carry brooms with them and gently sweep the ground in front of them so as to brush out of their path any bugs who may otherwise be inadvertantly squished.

I know! just thinking about this makes me cry

veceseaux:

i saw jains in india. some, when they walk, will carry brooms with them and gently sweep the ground in front of them so as to brush out of their path any bugs who may otherwise be inadvertantly squished.

The funny thing is that they make the brooms out of intestines from kittens and puppies.

veceseaux:

hmmm...so much for honest curiosity.

oh, is that what those questions are?????? you two are silly.

i think kombucha contains bacteria and yeast. not animals. remember biology? also, some guy named singer endorses the rule of sentience... can the creature suffer? a lot of vegans go by that.

as for sex, breastfeeding, boogers, shit eating fetishes, etc., it's usually about consent. breastfeeding mothers are a-ok with being sucked on by their babies. breastfeeding cows don't really say whether they're ok with being impregnated every year, hormoned-up, and stuck to a machine. consensual oral sex? vegan. rape? not vegan. veganism is a spectrum. some people do everything they can to avoid hurting any kind of animal & human. others don't. for example, i eat honey. but other than that, i try to minimize animal products & testing & environmental harm. it's not a religion tho - there's not a church telling me how to do it.

jvandub:

So... I'm like the opposite of jains. I make sure to stomp the ground as hard as I can when I walk. People find it annoying but I'm just trying to get ladies.

this reminds me of dinosaur comics so hard.

Pj:

veceseaux:

hmmm...so much for honest curiosity.

i try to minimize animal products & testing & environmental harm. it's not a religion tho - there's not a church telling me how to do it.

+1

yung jeezy pdx:

yeast is a living organism

so are plants. yeast is fungi, btw. vegans eat living organisms. just not animal products. c'mon, jeezy, where's your biology skillz?

Hecka pj...Hecka.

Food for thought...Human beings are the only species in the animal kingdom who

A) Drink the milk from another species

B) Drink milk after infancy

No other animal does this...(insert stupid "that's a lie my cat drinks cows milk!" statement where you deem it appropriate...) Always seemed strange to me. And if for some reason, humans deemed it a delicacy to round up cows and collect their boogers for consumption, I would hardly consider that a vegan practice. But if Veceseaux and TheBlackRider'sGirl would like, they can eat shit tons of my boogers. No harm, no foul.

Dude I love suckin on animal titties. Way cheaper than hookers.

I brought up boogers (wayyyyy back) as a joke. This shit is too serious. *Dance Party*

I don't wipe, wear a rubber, has the sexes or cuts my hairs.

What else you got, smart guy?

Got me there.

also, sometimes I launder my clothing.
In a machine. Built by robots who were in turn
built by other robots who were built by humans.

Horrors.

brooks is murder

shit never gets old

..what do you search for to find that?

"vegan vomit"

I'm not vegan, and I couldnt give a rats ass about animals. but I respect their choices.

zacp:

updated vegan rollcall?

here here.

xVEGANx
true till death
lets band together and kill all meat eaters!

we could just.... torture them by cutting off all access to meat?

hahahahahahahahaha

zacp:

updated vegan rollcall?

+1

sooooo in

Wow!
This thread has just cost me a lot of my faith in those who choose veganism as a humane and sustainable way of life, as well as my faith in those who "get it" but "abstain" from being vegan for personal or health reasons.

That being said, there is a lot of useful information in there, if you have the time and library of sources to parse it all.

I really respect that some of you take the hardline about your choices, but I am a skeptic in the longevity of this stance.

I have been vegan since I was a junior in High School. That was back in 1995, and in rural Oregon, there was a serious lack of information and understanding about all things vegan.
In the 13 years since making that decision, I have had ample time and opportunity to research and investigate and argue my position.
What I have come to in conclusion is that veganism is a personal choice. My choices, my actions, my justifications are MINE. There is no clear definition. Not even the most logical and all-encompassing and well-thought out or well-written definitions really capture the truth of the issue.
People will always find reasons to argue both sides of any point within this topic, because veganism is a personal issue. Why I choose to consume honey on occasion, or eat live cultures and probiotics, yeast, etc. are my personal reasons.
Why I choose to refrain from eating boogers, swallowing semen, or breastfeeding are also personal choices. (The latter two because I am a heterosexual male who knows nothing of these an has no desire to learn)

I, personally, choose to agree with the argument that veganism is the most far-reaching and impactful consumer choice we can have as Americans to preserve life on this planet. But that, too, is a personal choice.

I think, in the end, it comes down to respect and compassion. And in my personal opinion, a well-educated, well-informed, and well-practiced vegan should know how to show respect and compassion to all.

(And McBeth shoes aren't really vegan. They contain shitloads of PVC and kill more animals in their 8,000,000,000,000,000,000,000 year life span than most leather boots on the market. Look it up.)

just fyi, plenty of heterosexual men swallow semen all the time.

fuck em.

Max, poop face:

just fyi, plenty of heterosexual men swallow semen all the time.

What animals' semen are we talking about here, Max?