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So I'm a big fan of Walton's completely sanded down look on his new track bike. My girlfriend got a cheap Scattante cross frame and we're thinking about sanding it. Is this just a matter of taking all the parts off and using a mechanical sander? Does anything else need to be done? Any tips?
Tip: Save your lungs and have a shop do it for like $20-30.
Max is NOW!:Tip: Save your lungs and have a shop do it for like $20-30.
Totally. I've prepped a few frames and it is sucky work and without the proper tools you will never get all the paint off.
I used some eco friendly paint stripper. It smelled like play dough. Then again I was only taking off someone elses bad rattle can job. Used a palette knife to scrape a lot off, then sand paper and finally steel wool for the tight areas. Cleaned up nicely. But now its covered in stickers anyways.
use paintstripper. if your not going to be painting over it theres really no reason to sand it. paint stripper comes out cleaner anyway. also make sure you clear coat the bare metal
Jasco? never used it but heard it works
walton:Jasco? never used it but heard it works
Nasty stuff. It will burn you if it touches bare skin. You need to wear really thick rubber gloves and they eventually get hot and will begin to melt into your skin. I used some to strip paint off the ceiling of my front porch. The stuff would drip down on me and burn my face until I got smart and started wearing a hat/goggles/mask.
I imagine that environmentally it is bad news.
naw, mama nature loves her up some of dat trichlorethylene 1,1,1...
use the gel stripper, the liquid just runs off before it eats the paint.
Do it over several large cardboard boxes, and when your done sprinkle kitty litter and any spilt stripper. grind it in with your foot.
do this outside only, the fumes are bad news for your neurons
rubber dish gloves, scraper, wirebrush
don't leave the bare metal, clearcoat it after a steel wool and steel polish for a really dope look
or have a shop media blast it for $15-25 boodles
thats cheaper easier and better for the environmnt
they use crushed walnut shells as a blasting media, so aluminum is no problem
just my .02$
I used the gel chem stuff once. Thought a woodshop ventilation system was good enough. Then I woke up on a shop table 4 hours later with a headache. And the paint was still a bitch to clean off.
been there, done that. once. expect to have a lot of paint dust around if you sand. a mechanical sander might not work so well with all the curves, nooks, and crannies of a bike frame.
jasco and other methylene chloride-based strippers will work. it will also soak through your skin and into your fatty tissue, muscle tissue, bloodstream, etc. plus it will bring along the paint, primer, whatever has dissolved into it. the fumes will also be nicely absorbed by your nasal passages, bronchial passages, and lungs. there's some immediate neurological effects too (dizziness, headache, unconsciousness). make sure you don't smack your head as you pass out. that's the one-time short term hazard. long term and repeated exposure might lead to little things like cancer.
i'd be still careful with the "eco-friendly" stuff. read and follow the fine print on the label.
if you still want to chemically strip paint, make sure you have the proper protection. ask the hardware store person about it. certain gloves won't hold up to certain organic compounds. kinda like pouring gasoline into a styrofoam cup.
and the survey says:
bead blasting is the way to go, plus the chem strip don't take off rust
Cool, I think it's worth the $20-30 to have a professional do it. Anyone have a recommendation?
yellow pages for the closest one to you. sandblasting is sandblasting, but the powder coater place on 37th and SE powell charges $20 to blast unless your getting it painted then it's free.
I might need to check that place on 37th out, I want a good power coat. stuff last forever!
jojo:I might need to check that place on 37th out, I want a good power coat. stuff last forever!
i heard (from many people) they do shit work. saving $25 isn't worth having a shitty looking bike.
jojo:I might need to check that place on 37th out, I want a good power coat. stuff last forever!
I had a friend get a frame done there. Came out pretty nice but it took a really long time.
clear coat recommendations, anyone?
krylon high gloss. takes longer to dry but looks sick. i have a bunch of molotow clear coat that i used on my pista. its kind of yellowing now though.
zacp:jojo:I might need to check that place on 37th out, I want a good power coat. stuff last forever!
i heard (from many people) they do shit work. saving $25 isn't worth having a shitty looking bike.
i've seen 4-5 bikes they did that were really nice, and one that was shitty, the paint can bleed off sharp edges when curing if the metal prep isn't done right, and thats what happend. However i'm sure they woulda redone it if the bikes owner complained, but since it was his polo bike, he didn't care. I've also heard from some motorcycle guys that they stay away from that guy cuz he lost some expensive chopper parts that were supposed to be powder coated and dissapeared.
There are plenty of places in the phone book. Pick one and go check them out. if they have time to explaon what they do and sow examples of some nice work, try them. If they are too busy to talk, the place is a shit sty and you get a bad feeling...move on.
I personally don't think powder coating is "all that" so I just sand the chips out, use a nice auto primer like dp-90 and do a bunch of wet sanding on the color coats.Then finish with a nice clear coat. My rattle can jobs get mistaken for factory paint all the time.
i like my rattlecan job aswell. it doesnt look half as good as dougs probably but it was a lot easier and cheaper than powdercoating. plus its a bike, its going to get scratched and chipped, might as well rattlecan it.
thass how we do like errrry single day..
yep yep.
( good point ) I used to rattle can all my bikes ;) maybe its a calling again! primer/paint.. hehe
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