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    • CommentAuthorMax is NOW!
    • CommentTimeMay 27th 2008 edited
     

    New thread. Try to keep the chit-chat to a minimum. Not as much bike-specific chatter as I like, so I'm starting more.

    Term of the day: Pedal Cage(s)

    What is it?
    Pedal cages are not actually the toe clips and toe straps as many seem to believe. A pedal's cage is the "walls" found normally on a "cage" style pedal. These cages attach to the inner pedal axle and have different styles. There are some other styles that do not have detachable cages, like inexspensive BMX style pedals.
    Toe clips and toe straps are just toe clips and toe straps.

    Examples:

    Thanks to the three of you who made me remember this.

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      CommentAuthorlongwood
    • CommentTimeMay 27th 2008
     

    Sentence usage:
    "I had the ends of my pedal cages cut and ground down so they wouldn't scrap on the ground when I turn."

    True story.

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    you are welcome

    • CommentAuthorkrystenr
    • CommentTimeMay 28th 2008
     

    I like this thread. I want another term!

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      CommentAuthorjvandub
    • CommentTimeMay 28th 2008
     
    longwood:

    Sentence usage:
    "I had the ends of my pedal cages cut and ground down so they wouldn't scrap on the ground when I turn."

    True story.

    I put my pedal cages in my mouth to look like Master P.

    • CommentAuthorkrystenr
    • CommentTimeMay 28th 2008
     
    jvandub:
    longwood:

    Sentence usage:
    "I had the ends of my pedal cages cut and ground down so they wouldn't scrap on the ground when I turn."

    True story.

    I put my pedal cages in my mouth to look like Master P.

    Good call, baby.

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      CommentAuthorzacp
    • CommentTimeMay 28th 2008
     

    lemme see ya show ya cage.

    • CommentAuthoryetti_core
    • CommentTimeMay 28th 2008
     

    I never knew what JIS stood for so I looked it up on sheldon brown:

    *Japanese Industrial Standard (J.I.S.)*
    Less expensive Japanese bicycles use J.I.S. sized headsets, better ones use Campagnolo-sized headsets. Frames and forks built for J.I.S. headsets can be machined to fit standard Campagnolo-type headsets.
    J.I.S. fork crown seats are 27 mm in diameter, instead of 26.4 mm
    J.I.S. head tube inside diameter is 30 mm, instead of 30.2mm

    *ISO*
    The International Organization for Standardization. This is an international agency that is active in trying to rationalize bicycle design to make parts interchange more easily among bicycles made in different countries. Most ISO standards are compatible with British standards. These standards include:

    1" x 24 tpi headset thread
    1" (25.4 mm) handlebar/stem clamp diameter
    1.375" x 24 tpi bottom bracket thread (left-hand on the fixed cup)
    1.375" x 24 tpi freewheel thread
    56 TPI spoke thread
    1 mm axle thread

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      CommentAuthorjbucky1
    • CommentTimeMay 28th 2008
     

    ISO and JIS also apply to the interface between bottom bracket spindle and crank.

    on a different subject ...

    I like the term "frame whipping". - when using the bike frame and chain to seat or remove a cog. I whip my frame a lot, because I don't have an 1/8th inch chain whip.

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    jbucky1:

    ISO and JIS also apply to the interface between bottom bracket spindle and crank.

    on a different subject ...

    I like the term "frame whipping". - when using the bike frame and chain to seat or remove a cog. I whip my frame a lot, because I don't have an 1/8th inch chain whip.

    'frame whipping' is a good one, same as rotafix no?

    • CommentAuthoryetti_core
    • CommentTimeMay 28th 2008
     

    tpi-threads per inch

    • CommentAuthoryetti_core
    • CommentTimeMay 28th 2008
     
    jbucky1:

    ISO and JIS also apply to the interface between bottom bracket spindle and crank.

    on a different subject ...

    I like the term "frame whipping". - when using the bike frame and chain to seat or remove a cog. I whip my frame a lot, because I don't have an 1/8th inch chain whip.

    yes for some reason this was not noted on sheldon brown

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    isnt that rotofixing? or is that to put a cog on?

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    Resurrecting as I've seen the "Cages" term resurface....

    Please see first post.

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    -----new one-----

    For the kid who told me NJS parts were always the best.

    NJS - Nihon Jitensha Shinkokai (I can never remember this on my own, thanks internet)
    They are the regulatory commission for Japanese Keirin racing.
    While part quality is important for NJS regulations, it IS NOT the only qualification. NJS regulation attempts to make parts and tools standard for Japanese Keirin racing and make a generally "even" playing field for racers.

    This said, NJS stamp does not equal the highest quality of part. It means that it is approved for Japanese Keirin racing.

    Whether or not it is the highest quality, is a different matter.

    *PS* I don't know as much about Keirin racing as many other people on this board, so if you see something inaccurate, tell me.

    • CommentAuthortepr
    • CommentTimeOct 20th 2008 edited
     

    Not sure that 'quality' is quite the right word. NJS approved parts are all of extremely high quality - they just aren't the most technologically advanced. I'm also no NJS expert but this is how I understand it.

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    I see what you're saying, but I'm going to stick with quality.
    You're right in regards to metal parts.

    But I would argue that high-end CF wheel used for track racing will be qualitatively and technologically higher than a metal wheel of the same standard. I would also say that technology is tightly related to quality.

    I think the dispute you're making is categorical. As in, among the category of steel frames, Keirin frames will be of the highest quality. Which is true. However among the category of frames in general, there is STIFF competition.

    • CommentAuthortepr
    • CommentTimeOct 20th 2008
     

    I think were pretty much on the same page.

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      CommentAuthorjvandub
    • CommentTimeOct 20th 2008
     

    I think you're both dead.

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      CommentAuthorstumptown
    • CommentTimeOct 20th 2008
     

    I think you guys are mixing up 'quality' and 'performance'. Things can be manufactured to very high quality but not yield that much performance - i.e. Phil Wood hubs vs. lighter hubs with (marginally) faster bearings.

    NJS indeed has to abide by certain quality standards, and if those standards are not met, the approval is lost (i.e., a Vivalo fork snapping in a race). But as far as performance goes, there are much better things, although preference boils into it too and some people like to race on steel (I do but I haven't raced al yet).

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    once again, you're talking about a categorical reference. Here it is manufacturing quality. When I said quality, I left it ambiguous for that very reason. There are numerous ingredients to "general" quality, including performance.

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      CommentAuthorstumptown
    • CommentTimeOct 20th 2008
     

    Quality, eh?

    Zen and the Art of Motorcycle Maintenance.

    QED

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    hmm, i thought NJS meant hella street cred cause it was the BEST!

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      CommentAuthorzacp
    • CommentTimeOct 20th 2008
     
    yung jeezy pdx:

    hmm, i thought NJS meant hella street cred cause it was the BEST!

    yes.

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      CommentAuthorLincoln
    • CommentTimeOct 20th 2008
     

    no bike term but ya know those god damn H3's everywhere?

    Toolbox

    H3 Limo = Tool Shed

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