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CommentAuthorhumancongereel
- CommentTimeMay 9th 2008
white folks:
do it championship style, brake ok, no gears
fake package pick ups and drops( big boxes, tubes, heavy legal folders, etc..,)
do it on a sunday when less people will get run over or ticketed for slopping red lights.
that would be fun, lemme in Jen
+1. throw some randome file boxes full of bricks in there!
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CommentAuthorhumancongereel
- CommentTimeMay 9th 2008
ted:
Pick up and deliver is impractical. Think about how many things checkpoints would have to keep near them so people could pick it up and take it with them. Also, how are the judges supposed to know what "stuff" is legit at the end of the race? Is it going to have some special marking on it? Lame. It will also take up just as much time to stop, pick an object of your choice, securely place it in your bag, and then continue to ride.
To whoever is sad about the washington park checkpoint for whatever reason, (too far, I got lost, etc.) that is the idea of the race. You are supposed to prove you can ride hard and that you know your way around the city.
M2M was my first Alleycat, but I thought it was great. I can understand minors being upset they weren't allowed into the final destination, so I concur that a house would be a more suitable endpoint.
Looking forward to the next one.
pick up and deliver can work in a race setting just fine.
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CommentAuthorfreebird
- CommentTimeMay 9th 2008
I did a race once where there was a pick up, and the guys who got there first got the top of the stack of boxes i.e. all the heavy, unmanageable shit (this was like, the third stop out of 12), but as the slowpokes and drunks trickled through, the packages got lighter and smaller.
It's good to make people suffer. If you can't suffer, you might as well buy an electra townie and ride the sidewalks in your flip flops.
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CommentAuthorian
- CommentTimeMay 9th 2008
white folks:
trust me, Chaz will still get first even with 16"x16"x16 strap on.
oh...
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CommentAuthorstumptown
- CommentTimeMay 9th 2008
freebird:
I did a race once where there was a pick up, and the guys who got there first got the top of the stack of boxes i.e. all the heavy, unmanageable shit (this was like, the third stop out of 12), but as the slowpokes and drunks trickled through, the packages got lighter and smaller.
It's good to make people suffer. If you can't suffer, you might as well buy an electra townie and ride the sidewalks in your flip flops.
that's what i'm saying... glory through suffering... you think to yourself how hard it is at the time but when it's all over and you're having a beer with the other people that raced it, you all feel superbe.
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CommentAuthorJennx
- CommentTimeMay 10th 2008
white folks:
trust me, Chaz will still get first even with 16"x16"x16 strap on.
well chaz is moving so someone else can have a chance to be "chaz."
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CommentAuthorhumancongereel
- CommentTimeMay 10th 2008
but that's kinda what white folks and i are getting at. some of the young'uns that can ride fast and split traffic will never know what it's like to go from 19th and johnson to 4th and stark with 50 pounds on your back and 50 pounds on your bars with a bag full of other filings with an hour to do all of them.
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CommentAuthorJennx
- CommentTimeMay 10th 2008
I wasn't disagreeing on that at all, just poking fun. trust me I haven't said much on this thread, but I'm sitting back and seeing what everyone has to say.
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CommentAuthorhumancongereel
- CommentTimeMay 10th 2008
well hey jenn i've been lazy and haven't gone out to your place in a bit. no doubt we need to do some serious hangin'....but yeah, this race interests me and certan attempts to use a race to replicate messenger work in a measly couple of hours interest me....
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CommentAuthorJennx
- CommentTimeMay 10th 2008
who's to say that's how it's gonna be, that's all between everyone else.
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CommentAuthorhumancongereel
- CommentTimeMay 10th 2008
yeah, that's what i'm curious about.
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CommentAuthorjonah
- CommentTimeMay 10th 2008
hey, lets just not even have a bike race. that might be kinda hard, and people will get really tired having to ride bikes that cant even coast. thats just ridiculous.
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CommentAuthoryung jeezy pdx
- CommentTimeMay 10th 2008
its weird, my bike doesnt even have any brakes either. i wonder if that can be fixed?
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- CommentAuthoro_perkins
- CommentTimeMay 11th 2008
Jennx:
white folks:
trust me, Chaz will still get first even with 16"x16"x16 strap on.
well chaz is moving so someone else can have a chance to be "chaz."
I don't know of anyone else who could take that. I mean, thats pretty big.
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CommentAuthorJennx
- CommentTimeMay 11th 2008
this is true indeed.
start training.
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CommentAuthorplayground_terror
- CommentTimeMay 11th 2008
o_perkins:
Jennx:
white folks:
trust me, Chaz will still get first even with 16"x16"x16 strap on.
well chaz is moving so someone else can have a chance to be "chaz."
I don't know of anyone else who could take that. I mean, thats pretty big.
ah, zak could if he wasn't taking the year off alley cats....i think he is focusing on track or something instead...but he and chas (it's with an s) could definitely go head to head had they the chance.
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- CommentAuthorwhite folks
- CommentTimeMay 11th 2008
i totally screwed up that sentence, I didn't mean to say Chaz with an S could take a 16" strap on, I meant Chaz with an S would win first place with one of those moving boxes that are 16" cubes strapped to his bag.
Thats cool that Chas if off to live the dream so to speak. And Zak taking the year off. That just means it will go back to sharky winning 'em all like it used to be.
But, all snarkyness aside anyone got a good idea to make it harder for the "hardcore" and fairer for the "whippersnappers"?
It'd be nice if they could place in the prizes as well.
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CommentAuthorWalter
- CommentTimeMay 11th 2008
we could do a seperate younger grouping
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CommentAuthorhuss
- CommentTimeMay 11th 2008
One race, differernt classes @ sign-up.
under 21
21-30
Over 30...
Brakes, no brakes..That should cover it....prizes for the sub-groups and of course the Big one for 1st no matter what age or class. If the winner was under 21 with no brakes he only would get the 1st prize...Sound fair?
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CommentAuthorzelah
- CommentTimeMay 11th 2008
that doesn't even sound fun
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- CommentAuthortrueager
- CommentTimeMay 11th 2008
huss:
One race, differernt classes @ sign-up.
under 21
21-30
Over 30...
Brakes, no brakes..That should cover it....prizes for the sub-groups and of course the Big one for 1st no matter what age or class. If the winner was under 21 with no brakes he only would get the 1st prize...Sound fair?
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CommentAuthorstumptown
- CommentTimeMay 11th 2008 edited
ugh. i don't see why you guys are trying to segregate this stuff. it's the way of the world that the older guy with stronger legs and more experience is going to win. of course there's exceptions. why try to level the playing field? if you want to win, train. let the youngins win the footdown or trick contest.
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CommentAuthoryung jeezy pdx
- CommentTimeMay 11th 2008
i think it should just be one race. its fun even if i cant win
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CommentAuthorWalter
- CommentTimeMay 11th 2008
sounds good
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- CommentAuthoro_perkins
- CommentTimeMay 11th 2008
If you want you could just offer different places without segregating, like one for Overall, First Man, First Woman, First Out-of-towner, but I like one race better
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CommentAuthoryung jeezy pdx
- CommentTimeMay 11th 2008
first yungin
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CommentAuthorJennx
- CommentTimeMay 11th 2008
the only women that raced in the last one was on a tandom.
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CommentAuthorzelah
- CommentTimeMay 11th 2008
is that like a 2headed condom?
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- CommentAuthoro_perkins
- CommentTimeMay 11th 2008
Jennx:
the only women that raced in the last one was on a tandom.
well, hopefully more will show for the next one. w/ or w/o a first woman prize
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- CommentAuthoro_perkins
- CommentTimeMay 11th 2008
zelah:
is that like a 2headed condom?
no that's called saran wrap
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- CommentAuthorwhite folks
- CommentTimeMay 12th 2008
ok, then I was trying to rectify some of the gripes i heard after the last one, maybe that was all the shock of seeing in person just how fast them messenger duders really are. I know before my first alley cat I though I was quick shit, after well...not so much:)
So if it's one category, brakes allowed..lets keep it fixed only i dont want the sound of someones freewheel or freehub throwing off my concentration :)lol
no, really just no gears for real at least.
brakes optional
helmet optional
a pickup and deliver stage
how about some funny shit too. i did one where you had to get married..thats was fun..everyone was trying to get girls off the street outside this bar in SOMA to "marry them" it was hilarious.. I just grabbed another racer dude cuz gay marriage was legal in SF then.
anyone do any alley cats with fun sht like that? lets hear it
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CommentAuthorhuss
- CommentTimeMay 12th 2008 edited
Hey, I'm all for one race, that was just an idea for the kids(different classes)...shit im 38, all the young kids should beat me right?
Nice picture.....trueager (My hair isn't that grey)
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- CommentAuthorwhite folks
- CommentTimeMay 12th 2008
ya i'd like to see some kids try and keep up with you.
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- CommentAuthorkrystenr
- CommentTimeMay 12th 2008
white folks:
how about some funny shit too. i did one where you had to get married..thats was fun..everyone was trying to get girls off the street outside this bar in SOMA to "marry them" it was hilarious.. I just grabbed another racer dude cuz gay marriage was legal in SF then.
Haha, epic. I like the idea of doing funny shit.
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CommentAuthorhudsong
- CommentTimeMay 12th 2008 edited
Ooh, I'm moving to Portland this summer, so if this race happens at or after the end of June, I'll probably be in town! Sounds like some fun!
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CommentAuthorjbucky1
- CommentTimeMay 12th 2008
some of the best races i've seen are where you can ride whatever bike you want...bmx, double talls, cyclocross, track bikes, fixies with brakes, ss and so forth... encourages more people to ride and have fun.
race theme, heres one. food for a charity
each rider has to bring $15
riders are given lists of food needed.
check points are at grocery stores as well as other place.
end of the race, bags are emptied and the food is donated to the chosen charity. -
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- CommentAuthormizake
- CommentTimeMay 12th 2008
[quote][cite] jbucky1:[/cite]some of the best races i've seen are where you can ride whatever bike you want...bmx, double talls, cyclocross, track bikes, fixies with brakes, ss and so forth... encourages more people to ride and have fun.
race theme, heres one. food for a charity
each rider has to bring $15
riders are given lists of food needed.
check points are at grocery stores as well as other place.
end of the race, bags are emptied and the food is donated to the chosen charity.[/quote]this is the best idea i've heard yet.
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CommentAuthorJennx
- CommentTimeMay 12th 2008
hudsong:
Ooh, I'm moving to Portland this summer, so if this race happens at or after the end of June, I'll probably be in town! Sounds like some fun!
it's looking like it's gonna be in august.
mizake:
jbucky1:
some of the best races i've seen are where you can ride whatever bike you want...bmx, double talls, cyclocross, track bikes, fixies with brakes, ss and so forth... encourages more people to ride and have fun.
race theme, heres one. food for a charity
each rider has to bring $15
riders are given lists of food needed.
check points are at grocery stores as well as other place.
end of the race, bags are emptied and the food is donated to the chosen charity.this is the best idea i've heard yet.
i second that. see if we can fill up the back of seths pickup with cans or something. one of the most selfless things i've heard nice.
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CommentAuthorstumptown
- CommentTimeMay 12th 2008
that food for charity thing is how races go down in eugene...
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CommentAuthorfreebird
- CommentTimeMay 12th 2008
Sf does the supermarket sweep for the food bank. Same idea. I've never done it, but I've heard it's a blast and feeding hungry people is about the best thing I can think of.
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- CommentAuthorcharlie
- CommentTimeMay 12th 2008
sounds super sweet, i better whip my young self into shape
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- CommentAuthorbrianpatrickk
- CommentTimeMay 12th 2008
i think some sort of outreach or charity is a great idea.
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CommentAuthorRyan
- CommentTimeMay 12th 2008
mizake:
jbucky1:
some of the best races i've seen are where you can ride whatever bike you want...bmx, double talls, cyclocross, track bikes, fixies with brakes, ss and so forth... encourages more people to ride and have fun.
race theme, heres one. food for a charity
each rider has to bring $15
riders are given lists of food needed.
check points are at grocery stores as well as other place.
end of the race, bags are emptied and the food is donated to the chosen charity.this is the best idea i've heard yet.
thats a great idea. shit haha
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- CommentAuthorwhite folks
- CommentTimeMay 13th 2008
jbucky1:
some of the best races i've seen are where you can ride whatever bike you want...bmx, double talls, cyclocross, track bikes, fixies with brakes, ss and so forth... encourages more people to ride and have fun.
race theme, heres one. food for a charity
each rider has to bring $15
riders are given lists of food needed.
check points are at grocery stores as well as other place.
end of the race, bags are emptied and the food is donated to the chosen charity.there was just one of these in april...
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- CommentAuthorwhite folks
- CommentTimeMay 13th 2008
plus who'd wanna carry all those heavy cans....jk
i'm down...this could also be a "couplet race" where each person does half the manifest
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CommentAuthorahnichols
- CommentTimeMay 13th 2008
Jennx:
hudsong:
Ooh, I'm moving to Portland this summer, so if this race happens at or after the end of June, I'll probably be in town! Sounds like some fun!
it's looking like it's gonna be in august.
mizake:
jbucky1:
some of the best races i've seen are where you can ride whatever bike you want...bmx, double talls, cyclocross, track bikes, fixies with brakes, ss and so forth... encourages more people to ride and have fun.
race theme, heres one. food for a charity
each rider has to bring $15
riders are given lists of food needed.
check points are at grocery stores as well as other place.
end of the race, bags are emptied and the food is donated to the chosen charity.this is the best idea i've heard yet.
I really like this idea too. It seems like it would allow for less prep time for the people putting on the race too.
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CommentAuthorJennx
- CommentTimeMay 13th 2008
yah well i put the mash race together in about 2 and a half weeks. so this next one should be cake.
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