thanks :)

[quote][cite] STINE:[/cite][quote][cite] Neverender:[/cite][quote][cite] STINE:[/cite]i confess that this forum has digressed to a lower level than a yahoo chat room

that been said, i also have a problem maintaining my optimism for the so called "fixed" culture, affectionately referred to as the fixies, [b]yet i feel that i inevitably fall close if not in to this group of people just by age and association.[/b]

fuck. confession.[/quote]

And perhaps you fall in to this group of people because you also...RIDE A FIXED GEAR BIKE?
I hate to be a douche but you need to be called on that, you're bummed about being grouped into a culture when you yourself have chosen to ride a fixed gear bike, therefore automatically grouping yourself into the culture? If this 'yahoo chat room' forum is any indication, age and association have nothing to do with it. I have never met a single person who posts on here and the vast differences in age have been touted before.
I don't get it man.[/quote]

the bike is not the culture. the culture has used the bike.

you see what i mean? this culture that we are so vaguely referencing (yet probably agree on) has exploded in the last 7 or 8 years, reaching several tipping points where in new, larger groups latch on to the allure of the fixed gear life style [please don't say this is not true] and the people who have been riding before hold a different value in their "culture". this isn't going to stop, for now, and i'm not one to speak for anyone seeing as i've been riding for a mere 3 years. All i was confessing, which means something in its self, is that i feel that the simple values and reasons i began riding for are not anything like those shared, or flaunted, today.

i do not mean to offend anyone or discourage anyone from what they love, it was just a confession.[/quote]

what are the simple reasons you began riding for? and how do they differ from newbies' reasons?

[quote][cite] Max is NOW!:[/cite][quote][cite] mizake:[/cite][quote][cite] STINE:[/cite][quote][cite] Neverender:[/cite][quote][cite] STINE:[/cite]i confess that this forum has digressed to a lower level than a yahoo chat room

that been said, i also have a problem maintaining my optimism for the so called "fixed" culture, affectionately referred to as the fixies, [b]yet i feel that i inevitably fall close if not in to this group of people just by age and association.[/b]

fuck. confession.[/quote]

And perhaps you fall in to this group of people because you also...RIDE A FIXED GEAR BIKE?
I hate to be a douche but you need to be called on that, you're bummed about being grouped into a culture when you yourself have chosen to ride a fixed gear bike, therefore automatically grouping yourself into the culture? If this 'yahoo chat room' forum is any indication, age and association have nothing to do with it. I have never met a single person who posts on here and the vast differences in age have been touted before.
I don't get it man.[/quote]

the bike is not the culture. the culture has used the bike.

you see what i mean? this culture that we are so vaguely referencing (yet probably agree on) has exploded in the last 7 or 8 years, reaching several tipping points where in new, larger groups latch on to the allure of the fixed gear life style [please don't say this is not true] and the people who have been riding before hold a different value in their "culture". this isn't going to stop, for now, and i'm not one to speak for anyone seeing as i've been riding for a mere 3 years. All i was confessing, which means something in its self, is that i feel that the simple values and reasons i began riding for are not anything like those shared, or flaunted, today.

i do not mean to offend anyone or discourage anyone from what they love, it was just a confession.[/quote]

what are the simple reasons you began riding for? and how do they differ from newbies' reasons?[/quote]

this debate has been happening for centuries.
my advice would be to let it lay.[/quote]

i am aware of that, but i'm also curious.

[quote][cite] bicyCOLE:[/cite][quote][cite] mizake:[/cite][quote][cite] Max is NOW!:[/cite][quote][cite] mizake:[/cite][quote][cite] STINE:[/cite][quote][cite] Neverender:[/cite][quote][cite] STINE:[/cite]i confess that this forum has digressed to a lower level than a yahoo chat room

that been said, i also have a problem maintaining my optimism for the so called "fixed" culture, affectionately referred to as the fixies, [b]yet i feel that i inevitably fall close if not in to this group of people just by age and association.[/b]

fuck. confession.[/quote]

And perhaps you fall in to this group of people because you also...RIDE A FIXED GEAR BIKE?
I hate to be a douche but you need to be called on that, you're bummed about being grouped into a culture when you yourself have chosen to ride a fixed gear bike, therefore automatically grouping yourself into the culture? If this 'yahoo chat room' forum is any indication, age and association have nothing to do with it. I have never met a single person who posts on here and the vast differences in age have been touted before.
I don't get it man.[/quote]

the bike is not the culture. the culture has used the bike.

you see what i mean? this culture that we are so vaguely referencing (yet probably agree on) has exploded in the last 7 or 8 years, reaching several tipping points where in new, larger groups latch on to the allure of the fixed gear life style [please don't say this is not true] and the people who have been riding before hold a different value in their "culture". this isn't going to stop, for now, and i'm not one to speak for anyone seeing as i've been riding for a mere 3 years. All i was confessing, which means something in its self, is that i feel that the simple values and reasons i began riding for are not anything like those shared, or flaunted, today.

i do not mean to offend anyone or discourage anyone from what they love, it was just a confession.[/quote]

what are the simple reasons you began riding for? and how do they differ from newbies' reasons?[/quote]

this debate has been happening for centuries.
my advice would be to let it lay.[/quote]

i am aware of that, but i'm also curious.[/quote]
bikes are fun, let's keep it that way.[/quote]

i see.

I want zoobomb, but I am scared

I confess that I like to argue on the internet.

jonah:

mizake:

bicyCOLE:

mizake:

Max is NOW!:

mizake:

STINE:

Neverender:

STINE:

i confess that this forum has digressed to a lower level than a yahoo chat room

that been said, i also have a problem maintaining my optimism for the so called "fixed" culture, affectionately referred to as the fixies, yet i feel that i inevitably fall close if not in to this group of people just by age and association.

fuck. confession.

And perhaps you fall in to this group of people because you also...RIDE A FIXED GEAR BIKE?
I hate to be a douche but you need to be called on that, you're bummed about being grouped into a culture when you yourself have chosen to ride a fixed gear bike, therefore automatically grouping yourself into the culture? If this 'yahoo chat room' forum is any indication, age and association have nothing to do with it. I have never met a single person who posts on here and the vast differences in age have been touted before.
I don't get it man.

the bike is not the culture. the culture has used the bike.

you see what i mean? this culture that we are so vaguely referencing (yet probably agree on) has exploded in the last 7 or 8 years, reaching several tipping points where in new, larger groups latch on to the allure of the fixed gear life style [please don't say this is not true] and the people who have been riding before hold a different value in their "culture". this isn't going to stop, for now, and i'm not one to speak for anyone seeing as i've been riding for a mere 3 years. All i was confessing, which means something in its self, is that i feel that the simple values and reasons i began riding for are not anything like those shared, or flaunted, today.

i do not mean to offend anyone or discourage anyone from what they love, it was just a confession.

what are the simple reasons you began riding for? and how do they differ from newbies' reasons?

this debate has been happening for centuries.
my advice would be to let it lay.

i am aware of that, but i'm also curious.

bikes are fun, let's keep it that way.

i see.

this is the biggest quote ever.

just got longer!

yeah, i think that a combination of letting it lay, keeping bikes fun, and the fact that internet arguments are ... fun [maybe not the exact word i'd pick] will suffice.

i guess i just have what could be perceived as a "problem" when it comes to this issue. i have, since starting to ride fixed, always tried to be aware as possible to what has come before me. i try not to step over the line of brashness without considering those who have done what i'm just learning about for years. yes, i idolize some, despise some, but mostly i try my hardest to respect and learn what this group of riders and the culture they have generated is made of.

i guess i feel that many riders i see around, meet, and talk to [or observe on the internet] seem to skip over this to varying degrees. thats totally fine because its true that we all are riding because we love it

[EDIT: we don't need to quote the whole thing. i just thought it'd be funny... but really]

Neverender:

Your thoughts are just a single facet of the overall observation that, humans generally try to outdo one another at any available opportunity. Riding fixed is frustrating because no matter your reasons for riding, in Portland you are going to be in some way associated with the douchebags that make it lame for the rest of us who are just trying to have fun.

So, meet people who aren't idiots and carve yourself out a little area of 'fixed-gear culture' that appeals to you.

Which can be taken to any aspect of life really.
Do what you do for fun and let others do whatever the fuck they want. Leave the judgement to those who are too ignorant to see the big picture.

i like your statement here. it's easy to fall away from this benevolence when someone gets frustrated.

you make a good point in specifying our little bubble of portland.

in SF it just dosn't fucking matter, for example. some 14 year old hobbling awkwardley down the rode and ultimately walking his 08 pista with no brakes, $150 powder coat, $800 hed 3 and a tiny ass chrome bag would not even get a second glance. we live in a small, concentrated city so heads get butted quite a bit.

interesting at least.

STINE:

jonah:

mizake:

bicyCOLE:

mizake:

Max is NOW!:

mizake:

STINE:

Neverender:

STINE:

i confess that this forum has digressed to a lower level than a yahoo chat room

that been said, i also have a problem maintaining my optimism for the so called "fixed" culture, affectionately referred to as the fixies, yet i feel that i inevitably fall close if not in to this group of people just by age and association.

fuck. confession.

And perhaps you fall in to this group of people because you also...RIDE A FIXED GEAR BIKE?
I hate to be a douche but you need to be called on that, you're bummed about being grouped into a culture when you yourself have chosen to ride a fixed gear bike, therefore automatically grouping yourself into the culture? If this 'yahoo chat room' forum is any indication, age and association have nothing to do with it. I have never met a single person who posts on here and the vast differences in age have been touted before.
I don't get it man.

the bike is not the culture. the culture has used the bike.

you see what i mean? this culture that we are so vaguely referencing (yet probably agree on) has exploded in the last 7 or 8 years, reaching several tipping points where in new, larger groups latch on to the allure of the fixed gear life style [please don't say this is not true] and the people who have been riding before hold a different value in their "culture". this isn't going to stop, for now, and i'm not one to speak for anyone seeing as i've been riding for a mere 3 years. All i was confessing, which means something in its self, is that i feel that the simple values and reasons i began riding for are not anything like those shared, or flaunted, today.

i do not mean to offend anyone or discourage anyone from what they love, it was just a confession.

what are the simple reasons you began riding for? and how do they differ from newbies' reasons?

this debate has been happening for centuries.
my advice would be to let it lay.

i am aware of that, but i'm also curious.

bikes are fun, let's keep it that way.

i see.

this is the biggest quote ever.

just got longer!

yeah, i think that a combination of letting it lay, keeping bikes fun, and the fact that internet arguments are ... fun [maybe not the exact word i'd pick] will suffice.

i guess i just have what could be perceived as a "problem" when it comes to this issue. i have, since starting to ride fixed, always tried to be aware as possible to what has come before me. i try not to step over the line of brashness without considering those who have done what i'm just learning about for years. yes, i idolize some, despise some, but mostly i try my hardest to respect and learn what this group of riders and the culture they have generated is made of.

i guess i feel that many riders i see around, meet, and talk to [or observe on the internet] seem to skip over this to varying degrees. thats totally fine because its true that we all are riding because we love it

I do not mean to judge or sound pious and bullshit like that. true, no one should live trying to emulate others or seek their approval, but i think its important to understand why there is so much hostility and so many grudges held against the new massive generations of riders. there is a lot to see and its easy to miss. the internet isn't everything, which is slightly hypocritical considering i'm on a fixed forum right now, but this all is just my unfiltered thoughts which i don't usually share on the internet because it really is futile.

just know i'm not arguing against anyone, nor am i arguing that people are doing what they are for the wrong reasons, i'm just puting out a view that i've held for years and that i've only gotten to over time and after meeting people who ride from all types of riding, ages and groups.

just my two cents, no harm.

thoughts?

[EDIT: we don't need to quote the whole thing. i just thought it'd be funny... but really]

BIGGEST QUOTE EVER!!!!

EVER!!!!

confession: i have a newfound respect for STINE and his honesty.

I drove a car today. LOL

I keep forgetting to eat dinner, sometimes lunch. Riding every day and eating a lot less is going to get me so unhealthy and attractive I won't know what to do with myself.

I crashed on Stark last night trying to pick up my hat which had blown off my head. I fail at ride-by pick-up.

i got their utility belt it's amazing.

Jennx:

i'm eating reeses puffs cereal strait from the box by the handful hahaa

That stuff's vegan? Hell yeah! I'm geting my hands on a box of that ASAP!

Jennx:

unless i completely missed something on the side of the box yes, yes they are!!!!!!!

Damn, that sounds so good right now.

I'm an idiot and waited until the last minute to see if my bike would fit in my bag and it doesn't. So I'm going to SF bikeless. And I'm totally bummed about it.

yung jeezy pdx:

that sucks. i thought you were borrowing a bike carrier/box from too cool aerospoke helmet light say passing when passing lets ditch the ride and go get beers trackie dude.

wow.

hahaha what the hell!!!!!

how long did it take for you to think of that haha.

but c'mon be nice.

sorry for all ive offended. it was a dick move.

haha jerome

I spent 6 of 8 hours at work listening to death cab and bright eyes. seriously act like bright eyes isn't continuously great. digital ash was the lowest point in the last few years and even that was good, no to mention wide awake its morning came out with it and was amazing.

Cassadaga is what indiecountry should be. Take note rilo kiley

I think the mummy girls from daft punk's "around the world" are kinda sexy.

also: the big-shoulder/tiny head dudes still freak me the fuck out.

yung jeezy pdx:

the new deth cab stuff is supposed to be good but i havnt heard it yet.

it is :]
haha
i'm a sucka

I un-trued my front wheel on the same day I got it re-trued,

still need it trued.