stumptown:

Word. I probably won't run the Tri as a rear though since it makes more sense up front for the arrrrro... didn't you find yours flexy as hell in the rear by the way? They're not the stiffest wheels by any means but I didn't really notice much of a problem up front except off the track and climbing hills with all my weight forward.

I have one up front,i actually think it's stiffer than in a sprint any of my recent spoked wheels I've had lately. But i also only weight around 160lbs and have arms a of a woman.

[quote][cite] scarface#1:[/cite][quote][cite] stumptown:[/cite]Word. I probably won't run the Tri as a rear though since it makes more sense up front for the arrrrro... didn't you find yours flexy as hell in the rear by the way? They're not the stiffest wheels by any means but I didn't really notice much of a problem up front except off the track and climbing hills with all my weight forward.[/quote]
I have one up front,i actually think it's stiffer than in a sprint any of my recent spoked wheels I've had lately. But i also only weight around 160lbs and have arms a of a woman.[/quote]

Maybe radially stiffer (which isn't really a good thing, mostly just means more transmitted vibration), but most 32 spoke handbuilts are laterally stiffer (where stiffness in a wheel counts): http://www.sheldonbrown.com/rinard/wheel/data.htm

I think when you're gonna spew a buncha shit on this thread it should all be based on personal, real-life experience...none of this he said she said dean said sheldon said crap. We all can all google mindless technical shit for days. But I think USEFUL, real world knowledge is what we are all really after when reading this thread. You two should e-argue on AIM or at least put this in the "dumb and useless" thread or something.

Wow, I'm glad to see that "mindless technical shit" doesnt reflect real-life experence to you. But then again, I've never seen you post anything usefull ever, so I'm just gonna go about my mindless technical life and make sure that all legit technical shit debates are kept out of my dumb and useless thread.

Anyways, a "fast" wheel isnt one that is just stiff or just areo. Like I said, the normal Trispoke is the more aero wheel out there besides a disc. But they are not that stiff. At least on the track. On the track you have some stupid G-forces and side loads that just dont exist on the road. Whereas the iO is fairly aero, but one of the stiffest wheels ever. It's all about balence

THOR4LIFE:

...so I'm just gonna go about my mindless technical life and make sure that all legit technical shit debates are kept out of my dumb and useless thread.

Good.

white folks:

uh jer has a tubie tri spoke and a set of escape tubies. perhaps he does know. just sayin.

And he does deliver a pretty mean fajita party pack too!

[quote][cite] rookie:[/cite]
[quote][cite] white folks:[/cite]uh jer has a tubie tri spoke and a set of escape tubies. perhaps he does know. just sayin.[/quote]

And he does deliver a pretty mean fajita party pack too![/quote]

hahaha!

you know them suits been complaining about the fajita's being half-eaten on arrival.

all that shit tastes so much better when you steal it from deliveries...its like a little bite of fish taco heaven!

holler.

As far as i know, the original dupont/specialized trispokes were actual weaved carbon fiber...even before hed bought the molds and rights...are you saying hed make some aerospoke style hed3 at some point?

I'm going on hearsay. And you know what,I'm 100% over this little meaningless debate. Scarface signing off.

my trispoke squeaks.

totes spelled squeak wrong.

white folks:

my trispoke squeaks.

totes spelled squeak wrong.

Give it to me I weigh like 60 pounds

Uhm, ride fast?

You cant a conclusive answer just asking that beyond general fitness advice. If you have not done a lot of racing my advice is ride your bike lots, ride it fast sometimes, ride it slower and farther others. But ride with people and get comfortable ride safely closely to them at speed. Without knowing what your real plans, fitness level or what you want to try and do best its hard to say a lot more imo.

well i found this via google:

I usually do some sort of interval set to break up the boredom. For example: Ride 1-minute on/1 minute-off after a 10 to 15 minute warm-up, getting cadence up to 95-110rpms on the interval. I also like a buildup set where you do 5-minute blocks at a certain heart rate, then increase the gear and/or resistance every 5 minutes until I'm at about 80% of max heart rate for the last 5 minutes. Also, try challenging yourself to do short interval spin sets (1-minute or less with long recoveries) attempting to hold a high cadence without bouncing on the saddle to perfect your pedaling form.

obviously not completely relative with the "increase the gear" comment.

are you going to be at the track tomorrow night? i could probably swing by after work and use what's left of the daylight...

you can get them kreitlers with "killer head wind"

or you can just ride your bike.

white folks:

or you can just ride your bike.

profound?

word though. rollers will help your effort get to the bike. your gonna need some clipless joints. even with toshi doubles you still have big dead spots

So, youre just trying to 'excel in fitness'? If youre not trying to be a sprinter work on base miles right now, do some intervals here and there and up the frequency of them more towards when your first events start. Your aerobic system takes longer to improve but lasts longer, where as anaerobic efforts can be built up quicker. The bonus of your aerobic system is it will help your recover quick from hard efforts, which when doing the cat 5 omniums saved my ass a couple times last year chasing people down or having enough left to throw a final effort in for the end.

So White Folks of ride your bike lots right now is good imo. Do weights one day a week and intervals a couple days later. Supplement as many base mile rides as possible. And if youre willing to do all that read a book on training, itll help you.

PS f*ck egg beaters for track. But love them for cross.

http://www.amazon.com/Cyclists-Training-Bible-Joe-Friel/dp/1934030201/ref=sr_1_2/178-5785576-3677534?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1237351956&sr=1-2

This one?

Does anyone have weights here? Maybe a... guest pass? heh. I did a lot of weight training in college because it was free, but I don't think I'm ready to shell out the cash for 24hr fitness or something like that right now.

any gym called loprinzi's is okay with me.

Aokp - yeah, that's the book. Should have what you're looking for.

aokp:

scarface#1:

I thought rollers were more for Cadence,and a resistance trainer was for strength?

no you're right, i was just talking out my ass.

sorry but "just riding your bike" isn't exactly a plan. i know it sounds very nice and profound, but it's always good to have something slightly structured when trying to excel in an athletic activity.

Agreed.

Why do any of you people bother going to the track? You waste multiple paychecks on stupid tubular aero wheels, only to ride them downtown and show off, and sell them when they go flat. You shave your chicken legs, why? You didn't even know what a track bike was until a year and a half ago when you discovered stumptown on 3rd & pine, and now make fun of kilo tt's when you had one up until 3 months ago. Speaking of bikes, have you ever even seen a pre-armstrong tour de france? Live? Or remember when lugged bikes weren't cool, rather the 'norm'? Fuck it, I'm going back to sleep...maybe I'll see you at stumptown today, it's supposed to be 60 and sunny. I'll be driving.

Thank you rookie im going to go sell my track bike now and buy some roller blades. Youve enlightened us all.