the GT track with the "triple triangle" frame is pretty common, in fact i think thats what they rent.

I'd think a kilo tt properly kitted would be right at home.

of course several guys chose the velo over golf or harleys as their hobby (which i think a good thing) and of course have the requisite olympic quality carbon fiber bat-man bike. look frames with weird headseat/fork/barstem/frame combos

The Mercier comes in some weird sizings... 53 and 57 and I usually ride a 55...

Is there anything you would need to do to the stock bike to get it ready for racing?

alex:

So I know a lot of people recommend the Kilo TT as a starter track bike. Does that recommendation still hold up if the main use of the bike is going to be track racing? What's a common entry-level bike you see at Alpenrose?

Pista with a new saddle. It's got the quintessential track geometry.

Is Leader an internet thing?

leaderbikestore.com if you dont want to deal with ebay.

the leader's(the 720tr) geometry is really not "track" they (leader) call it their "messenger" frame the 735TT has a more aggressive geo that the 720.

notably the seat tube angle is leaning too far back, true track bikes have more upright seat tubes IIRC.

but as a 720 owner, I like it. The BB is nice and high, and the laid back seattube angle makes it a comfy bike that handles nice n snappy. Very short wheelbase. very short rear stays.

I think a fork with more rake than stock should be considered. The stocker has 37mm rake which gives a lil over lap with my big old feet. I used a fork with 45mm rake and liked it too, but I broke it in a crash. Jeezy sold me a stocker which I've been rocking but I'm looking for something with like 42mm rake...just a little more "trail" would be nice for hands off riding.

2007 SPECIALIZED LANSCTER COMP!!!!! ONLY 800!!!!!!!!!!all it needs is new wheels(maybe)!!!!!!!!but only if you can get over the paintjob...

Hey MIN, I got your back, on the Pista !!!

for under $600, you cant loose.......well maybe a race, but thats not the bikes fault....haha

What does the peanut gallery think? I would like some advice on pricing my pending bike sale.

I am considering listing my 2007 Chrome Pista on CL at $650.

It has the following:
-absolutely like new. not a single scratch, dullness or dirt. low miles.
-a $120 Selle Italia SLK Gel Flow
-a Winwood/Nashbar carbon fork
-New Stronglight 39T Chainring off my $700 Pulsion cranks (Dura Ace quality or better.)
-Dura-Ace 14T cog with 10 miles on it. Gear ratio @ 75."
-Carbon headset spacer.
-Both my Deda steel track drops and Syntace Stratos bullhorns
-Shimano R600 dual-pivot calipers and Cane Creek lever.
-stock, de-stickered wheels.
-Vittoria Zaffiro 25c brand new tires.
-pedals not included.

Stock Pista seat instead, minus $50.

Go with a bareknuckle if you can. Throw a good wheelset and that bike will last you for a LONG time.

Here is my ad on CL.

http://portland.craigslist.org/wsc/bik/649276170.html

MIN:

What does the peanut gallery think? I would like some advice on pricing my pending bike sale.

I am considering listing my 2007 Chrome Pista on CL at $650.

It has the following:
-absolutely like new. not a single scratch, dullness or dirt. low miles.
-a $120 Selle Italia SLK Gel Flow
-a Winwood/Nashbar carbon fork
-New Stronglight 39T Chainring off my $700 Pulsion cranks (Dura Ace quality or better.)
-Dura-Ace 14T cog with 10 miles on it. Gear ratio @ 75."
-Carbon headset spacer.
-Both my Deda steel track drops and Syntace Stratos bullhorns
-Shimano R600 dual-pivot calipers and Cane Creek lever.
-stock, de-stickered wheels.
-Vittoria Zaffiro 25c brand new tires.
-pedals not included.

Stock Pista seat instead, minus $50.

grimm:

MIN, I think that actually is a pretty great deal for whoever wants a fixed on CL. Personally I would have priced it a little more since it has the CF fork, it may have not sell as quick though. And not to be a jerk but why mention the CF headset spacer?

You planning on building up a new fixed once you sell that?

Thanks for the feedback, Ben. But don't you know that CF spacers sell bikes? ;) I dunno, I could have just as easily omitted that. I hope it sells soon. I am definitely going to build up another fixed gear. I have ideas on some candidate but it will not be track geometry.

Revolver I think...that's what the website says anyway...

tht dudes dean.....ugh. go to Revolver out on interstate and portland (aka rosa parks) you'll get a WAYYYY better price and not have to deal with Mr. Know-Everything-About-Track-Purist-betterthat thou Bike Central guy.

All I can say Is that guy Dean can lose more business than anyone all he has to do is open his mouth!

yeah, they do have the shit. but that not enough for me to give money to someone I can not stand. dude needs to learn how to treat customers,and until then I'll gladly go elsewhere, relate my experiences to others and ask they do the same.

it is a shame, cuz as you said they got the best shit.bummer

I'm a proponent of buying EVERYTHING from your local Bike shop, however if it's between bike central and the internet, I'm skipping dean, and hoping that the guy owning price point or bike island isn't an asshole.

The steel Fuji is road geometry. Pay attention to the chainstay length, that's a good indicator. The ST and HT angle is lax at 73 deg as well.

http://www.fujibikes.com/2008/sg.asp?id=418

So what's the cheapest "true" track bike? The GT?

Really? I'm surprised that racing on steel would be popular. Certainly the Pista wins in the looks department... MIN, interested in trading your Pista for a San Jose?

bicyCOLE:

oh, like a tarck bike?

Maybe the thread should be called, cheapest tarck free track bike

hah.

MIN:

coincidentally he sells sugino parts. go figure.

aaaand they can order other brands.

The more I bike the more I appreciate buying good parts once rather than buying shitty parts and changing them later.

Are you riding clipless Alex? If not maybe invest in some good shoe/pedal combo to put on rented bikes for a bit.

Talked to another Cat-3 racer. He said to just rent bikes for the summer to see if it's something you want to stick with. Then if you're on a budget buy the Fuji Track Pro or if you have some extra cash get something from Bike Central.

I'm really suprised he said anything about the Flite. That man loves his bareknuckles.

Ok, and I have to say this. It'll probably come off as asshole-ish, but whatev. None of you really have any right to talk shit about Dean when it comes to track anything. You can bitch about his prices or whatever, but he knows what the hell he's talking about. He has an odd personality, but then again so do I. Just take what he says in a "yay, I get to learn" attutide.

Sorry, I'm just getting really tired of all the anti bike central shit when 99% of yall dont know the half of what they have done for the track

alex:

Then if you're on a budget buy the Fuji Track Pro

Does anyone know how much fuji track pro frames cost, if you can even by just the frameset..