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Anyone know if the Recyclery has decent prices on bike frames, parts, etc. I'm building my g/f a ss and want to know if going to this place is better than say buying online, etc. Thanks.
it's alright i suppose. you really gotta know what you're buying though because they don't really check all the stuff there. Check out the threads on frames and forks, make sure things like dropouts aren't bent, etc.
You don't suppose they'll show me what I need. This will be the first bike I've ever built so I'll need some assistance from them you suppose they'll oblige?
are you building up a conversion? in the long run you'll save money buying a track frame up front. Also there's a 60cm pista on craigslist right now. Look at the "inexpensive frame" thread.
If you are commited to a conversion, how tall are you I have a couple nice frames that'd make good conversions. I have NICE raliegh super course but it's like 61cm it's pretty big. Also have a 55cm nishiki roadbike frame that'd would be really nice, nice tubeset, nice geometry.
Also, beyond buying just the frame stay away from the recyclery. Go to city bikes instead. That guy B******n has fucked up two of my friends bikes so I try and steer folks away from there.
I would highly suggest going to city bikes rather than the recyclery.
What is exactly a conversion? You mean a single speed? If so then yes, figure this will be the easiest to maintain and it's for my girlfriend and fixed is out of the question with her. I did look at the inexpensive frame thread and found a few but I'm really set on building my own bike to get an understanding of bicycle mechanics and maintenance. The 55cm might work as it's for my girl and she's 5'6 5'7" ish.
DO NOT GO TO THE RECYCLERY!
I only had "sorta" bad comments about them before. But they are seriously no longer worth it to even visit and check out. I went in yesterday and they had nothing I even thought was worth buying. And the few things that were "decent" were way overpriced.
There was one Cinelli stem, totally ravaged and scratch unrecognizably, that they wanted $35 for.
Stay away. They've sold me totally bunk stuff before.
I recommend Meticon to be honest. They are on Foster and 60th. I saw some of the conversions they built, and they are very well done, with not too flashy of stuff.
City bikes is good for parts, but most people who work there will get frustrated with you, long before you get any answers.
But the best answer, I would say, is to buy a pizza and some Hamms and invite a few of us over.
I might just take some of you up on that. Escape from New York, Hamms and Sparks. The Sparks so we'll get it on the road quick. Holla.
For a SS, you'll probably be better with the road bike conversion rather than a track frame. It'll be a more comfortable ride.
Wha??? Still a beginner here must extrapolate.
A track frame is a frame originally developed for velodrome racing. The geometry is less comfortable (for most people) and more sensitive than a normal road bike. There's other differences as well, but thats the main one.
A road frame is just like the bikes you are used to seeing. The geometry is for touring or commuting normally and has a more comfortable ride for cruising along.
I believe you are talking about road frames, as track frames are a little more work to find, and more expensive than an older, low-end, road bike. A road frame should suit a SS nicely, especially if it's for around town. Although you may not get the same "street cred", it's more about the use/cost factor.
Fuck street cred I'm cheap. I'll take a $1 corn dog at am pm over a $2.49 whopper any day. It's for my g/f anyways and she doesn't give a shit about that stuff. Road frame is what I'm looking for. I'm trying not to spend more than $300.
Max is NOW!:DO NOT GO TO THE RECYCLERY!
But the best answer, I would say, is to buy a pizza and some Hamms and invite a few of us over.
jvandub:I might just take some of you up on that. Escape from New York, Hamms and Sparks. The Sparks so we'll get it on the road quick. Holla.
PIZZA OASIS!
I am def down with the sparks and willing to help with the build...I like working on bikes....and maybe if we all get together and get drunk the bike might get done by the end of the night!....or not.
Max is NOW!:A track frame is a frame originally developed for velodrome racing. The geometry is less comfortable (for most people) and more sensitive than a normal road bike. There's other differences as well, but thats the main one.
A road frame is just like the bikes you are used to seeing. The geometry is for touring or commuting normally and has a more comfortable ride for cruising along.
I believe you are talking about road frames, as track frames are a little more work to find, and more expensive than an older, low-end, road bike. A road frame should suit a SS nicely, especially if it's for around town. Although you may not get the same "street cred", it's more about the use/cost factor.
Plus the dropouts(place where the wheels axle slide in) are horizontal on the older road bikes or "conversion" frames making it possible to deal with a single speed chainline.
Well when I get the time I'll put out a post. You guys can help/teach me how to put this ish together. Look out for a discussion but I'm still going to need someone to help me figure out on all the shit I need so we don't end up with a half put together bike. I'm still not sure as to exactly where I should find all the parts. I'm going to check out Veloshop because it's close and currently I'm w/o bike as mine is getting worked on. I guess I could probably drive over to Meticon to grab all the parts I need.
You know, I would love to sit around and drink beers and watch someone build up a conversion. I've never seen it done from scratch before.
jvandub:Well when I get the time I'll put out a post. You guys can help/teach me how to put this ish together. Look out for a discussion but I'm still going to need someone to help me figure out on all the shit I need so we don't end up with a half put together bike. I'm still not sure as to exactly where I should find all the parts. I'm going to check out Veloshop because it's close and currently I'm w/o bike as mine is getting worked on. I guess I could probably drive over to Meticon to grab all the parts I need.
I have tools and a stand too....if you don't have those things.
although I have never put on a single speed freewheel.
Freewheel is easier than a cog and lockring if you ask me.
And as for parts, I would honestly lurk craigslist and look for a cheap road bike. Theres lot of things you can keep without replacing too much. Then if it has a nice enough bottom bracket and headset we might not even have to play with too much grease.
how tall is the person this bike is for?
My girlfriend is 5'7". Thanks a lot for offering up your services you guys. We'll make it worth your while. Bourbon, pizza, beer and crepes at my apartment. I'll definitely need tools and a stand as I left all that stuff back in the burbs. I'll check out craigslist for a deal and send out a discussion when I get the stuff. We have an old Sears bike we could use some parts off of but it's an old three speed and I'm not sure if we could use a lot off of it. The tires are new though. It's a great bike but it's not very fast and it's meant for cruising not zipping around town so it's not as safe as I'd like it to be. If you guys see anything or know anyone selling anything let me know. Is around $300 plausible for this thing?
Totally doable for under $300.
On the three speed, what type of crank is it?
Cottered, Cotterless, or one-piece?
Google these if you don't know, you can tell by looking at it.
It's a one-piece.
5'7"... I'm guessing she would be a 52cm size frame... Maybe 54 if she's got long legs and arms.
I built my first fixie with material from citybikes. Craiglist will probably be cheaper, but the mechanics are trustworthy and offer great advice if you need help.
Doug,
did you have a frame already the right height for this?
I'd say she's probably a 54...I'm 5'5 and I have a 52cm frame. I want in on this building party. I'm building my next track bike (practically the first thing I've ever built) from components I'm buying online. Plus, I really like beer. I don't have tools to offer, but I do have a lot of charm, wit and a 24 pack of Hamm's.
Don't go to the Recyclery unless you totally know your shit. I constantly feel like they are trying to convince me that shitty stuff is good. They're pretty overpriced, too. And they don't seem to have any qualms with selling stuff that doesn't seem all that safe to me.
I'm a little averse to craigslist because I've been burned before, I didn't know that the bike I bought previously was not ridable and unfixable. Something I should have researched beforehand. If you guys see anything send me a message. Even better would be if any of you guys have a 53cm or 54cm frame.
You just need to go and check the bike or parts out before you agree to buy it. Look at everything. And ask about all of the parts before you go and look at it. Find out what brands they are and such. You can't tell the quality of anything really just from a picture. And always test ride.
krystenr:I'd say she's probably a 54...I'm 5'5 and I have a 52cm frame. I want in on this building party. I'm building my next track bike (practically the first thing I've ever built) from components I'm buying online. Plus, I really like beer. I don't have tools to offer, but I do have a lot of charm, wit and a 24 pack of Hamm's.
Don't go to the Recyclery unless you totally know your shit. I constantly feel like they are trying to convince me that shitty stuff is good. They're pretty overpriced, too. And they don't seem to have any qualms with selling stuff that doesn't seem all that safe to me.
hey krystenr do you have headset tools? I don't. :(. with our tools combined we could easily build the rest of the bike and he could have this put on beforehand if not....depending on if the frame comes with the headset(which would be nice).
jvandub-I am on the craigslist hunt right now!!!
I don't have tools unfortunately :(
But he could easily have a shop do that for him. Actually, most shops are nice enough to let you borrow their tools for free. Depends where you go.
oh oops....i read wrong on the post!!reading comprehension is not my forte
krystenr:I don't have tools unfortunately :(
But he could easily have a shop do that for him. Actually, most shops are nice enough to let you borrow their tools for free. Depends where you go.
i've got all the tools you'd need to put together a conversion from scratch, as that's what i got them to do originally. and, that's so long as you aren't using old bottom brackets, as i don't have a c-spanner or pin tool. i also don't have a chain whip.
but, i've converted two roadies from scratch last fall and winter, and enjoy doing it.
so, let me in on that partay.
i have a bunch of odds and ends from my conversion jobs, too, like an old 1" threaded headset, a 68mm / 110 (i think) cartridge bottom bracket, a brake lever, a couple chainrings, and pieces here and there.
i just measured both frames I have and sorry looks as if both are too big
the nishiki has a 57.2 seat tube and a 56 top tube
the super course has a 59 seat tube and a 55 top tube
bummer cuz the raleigh is almost ready to go, just needs cranks and wheels.
I would just go in there with the knowledge that $50--75 oughta get you a serviceable frame and fork. in the right size.more than that and it better be something rally nice like a px-10 peugot or some nice italian job.
I was just at the 8th ave city bikes and besides a couple nice frames hangin from the ceiling, they have a couple bikes upstairs that would make nice single speeders.
If your out in NE check at the Comm Cycling center 16th and alberta, they have good deals and they are straight shooters.
pps: here's a freewheel. cheap.
http://portland.craigslist.org/mlt/bik/643033961.html
take someone who knows about them when you check it out, so you can try to see if it's near wearing out.
http://portland.craigslist.org/wsc/bik/639620597.html
this would be promising to harvest parts off of and sounds like it's her size.
grab that fix cog too, hold it in your hand and feel the power of the dark side.
actually that is one of the few scwhinn's I would touch. something like that.
hahahaha.
yetti_core:http://portland.craigslist.org/wsc/bik/639620597.html
this would be promising to harvest parts off of and sounds like it's her size.
This looks perfect. Indeed... I'll call em up unless anyone has some doubts.
I believe I can also get some parts from the Portland State Coop, supposedly they only charge a %30 markup according to the guy working there. Does this sound like a deal?
Terrible news... it's been taken but the guy has another bike, it's a Fuji late 70s, light build, suntour dropouts. Said it would be a good candidate for a conversion. A little bit of rust on the frame but nothing that effects the strength of the frame according to him. He's going to send me some pics right before he puts the ad up on CL. He wants $100 for it. Anyways if anyone has anything to say about this it would be helpful. I'll send a link to the pics or the ad soon. Oh yeah it's a 54cm and he said it should fit her just fine.
Find out about the components first. You'll have to ask, you most likely can't tell from a picture.
jvandub:Terrible news... it's been taken but the guy has another bike, it's a Fuji late 70s, light build, suntour dropouts. Said it would be a good candidate for a conversion. A little bit of rust on the frame but nothing that effects the strength of the frame according to him. He's going to send me some pics right before he puts the ad up on CL. He wants $100 for it. Anyways if anyone has anything to say about this it would be helpful. I'll send a link to the pics or the ad soon. Oh yeah it's a 54cm and he said it should fit her just fine.
you could easily sand the rust out and repaint it if the rust isn't too bad. don't underestimate a good rattle can job.or powdercoat later down the road.
I'll put up a post as soon as I find out what the details of it are.
Yea, the components are important because I wouldn't pay $100 for just an ok frame.
Alright here it is. It's got It has a Suntour grouping with nice eyelet rims from France and hubs from france. The frame looks like its been sitting in the rain or in a damp garage for a while. Any of you guys anything wrong with it? Actually I tried to upload them to photobucket but they're too large, if you guys whisper me your email I can forward them to you.
What about this one?
http://portland.craigslist.org/mlt/bik/643957452.html
A little smaller but not too small.
ask if the wheels are 27" or 700c.
27" wheels will severely limit your tire choices.
Other than that, if the size is right it sounds decent. The cranks are the next thing to look at after wheels, are they 3 peice,cotterless? can they use modern chain wheels? an 86 110 130 or 144 bolt circle diameter
after that just make sure the seat post is not stuck, rust on the frame sometimes means rust other places.
that guy posts alot of bikes on craigslist, he is somewhat of a dealer. Now I'm not saying he's a scammer, but I see things in his ads that make me scratch my head.
For instance he always puts (TUNED) in his ad. But then mentions that some of his bikes needs tires, or cables, or pads etc..
so then what exactly is tuned?
some wd-40 and a tube or two?
buyer beware for sure
thats a lil too small as well.
something like this:
http://portland.craigslist.org/wsc/bik/643936534.html
but with 700c size wheels
if you want this one, call and offer $75 cash but be nice and explain your situation, most folks will be happy the bike is gonna get some love.