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hey ben, that ride on sunday, whats the pace going to be like?
im asking because i might want to do it fixed because i need to ride but has no road bike currently.
Sounds like muy position
with the wind? I don't think so bro
marshall i just read your deleted post.. your race it at 7pm not am.
yung jeezy pdx:hey ben, that ride on sunday, whats the pace going to be like?
im asking because i might want to do it fixed because i need to ride but has no road bike currently.
Multnomah Falls has a long downhill section and a long uphill. I wouldn't really recommend doing it fixed. A freewheel, however, might work out.
i rode the ms150 fixed, second day was about a 5 mile climb and i went past a lot of road bikes. i was wearing lyrca however.
Multnomah falls would be sketch as fuck fixed, have fun skidding the shit out of your tire to avoid drifting into the other lane and getting hit by oncoming traffic...
I just got back from an out and back to Vernonia today. Much recommended ride, Scappoose-Vernonia highway is gorgeous as hell. 113 miles.
[quote][cite] toddistic:[/cite]i rode the ms150 fixed, second day was about a 5 mile climb and i went past a lot of road bikes. i was wearing lyrca however.[/quote]
This same thing will happen with singlespeed MTBs vs. geared ones. It's because with no gear to shift down from, you're forced to commit, stand up and power through. Your HR was probably way above the other guys you past, hence you would eventually blow up earlier. But once the grade hits 15% or more, the effect doesn't really happen anymore...
stumptown:toddistic:i rode the ms150 fixed, second day was about a 5 mile climb and i went past a lot of road bikes. i was wearing lyrca however.
This same thing will happen with singlespeed MTBs vs. geared ones. It's because with no gear to shift down from, you're forced to commit, stand up and power through. Your HR was probably way above the other guys you past, hence you would eventually blow up earlier. But once the grade hits 15% or more, the effect doesn't really happen anymore...
i had alot of fun, 46x18 up the hill, flipped the wheel after the climb to 46x16 and had fun destroying my knees on 15 miles of descent. was alot of fun, gonna try it next year geared - i want to do the day one 100 miles in around 4 hours.
heh, de ronde fixed 42x22
was that a bad idea, or my best idea?
also i got a somewhat favorable school schedule for winter term, should be up for some rides. can't do anything tomorrow, sup yall for monday?
MrBaker:yung jeezy pdx:hey ben, that ride on sunday, whats the pace going to be like?
im asking because i might want to do it fixed because i need to ride but has no road bike currently.Multnomah Falls has a long downhill section and a long uphill. I wouldn't really recommend doing it fixed. A freewheel, however, might work out.
Mult Falls is Mon, Sun is chill ride, maybe fixed up the cemetery to dwntwn. I have to drive back to PDX tomorrow, so im not making any big plans.
Weekly ride should really be set up. I'm free mostly everyday, lets do this.
How about Monday mornings around 8 we meet up at stumptown downtown then go put some miles down
I would be down
i was thinking just the springwater or if anyone has a better route we could do that.
I was thinking something with more hills but alas I do not know the routes in portland
There's like a dozen ways to get some hills in. Just zigzag the west hills.. Just in NW you can do cornell/thompson, springville, germantown, newberry, mcnamee, cornelius pass, logie trail, or rocky point.
There's some easier ways through SW - up to council crest is nice and you can do the fairmount loop and then head to skyline from there via humphrey blvd.
Sounds like fun
I think im gonna wait till midday, mileage and terrain will kind of pend on what the weather and my legs feel like doing.
Mon 20% chance of rain, rest of week 60+. So get out tomorrow if ya can. Not that I wont ride in the rain, but its nice to get home and feel my fingers and not have to wash the bike.
Was running late, so didnt have time for mult falls. But the winds were coming so hard out of the gorge im glad I didnt attempt it. Ended up just riding spring water till 257th, across gresham to marine drive and back down on 33rd.
Took a sweet detour though at 122nd, took a right went past foster and it dropped into a creek then up a pretty steep climb to flavel which is nice and fin/twisty to SE Deardorf, took a left around some stuff and came out on Foster and 134, got back on the trail and went on. There are some cool hills and roads back there, need to map it out a little more.
hey Ben, what are you looking like after new years? I'm gonna have a bunch of free time for two weeks, and need to get my road on. The colnago has had a flat tire since september, it's probably time to get up onnit.
Well news years eve is thurs, fri i will be hung over maybe getting tattooed. Sat and Sun weather pending may be good, but after that im back to work. But, I may be able to sneak off for a midday tabor/mt scott or after work ride if it is gonna be decent weather.
If the weather sucks im going to be running for aerobic and lifting at loprinzi's for strength maybe couple days a week. Need to get in a routine.
Helpful tips for road racing:
http://www.ritteracing.com/2009/08/the-art-of-riding-sideways/
From the local expert of holding your penis out the side of your shorts, amy. Thanks, Amy.
No problem.. I usually just wear a magnum while riding and pee in that, but this sounds a lot easier.
i'm at the point where i can start buying parts. here's how it goes:
I have a late model schwinn steel frame that is stiff and light enough and it fits, I want to build it up.
Not enough money for parts and frame at this time, so I'm upgrading the parts (maybe next year a frame). I want a campagnolo or sram build. I would be building chorus or a sram mixture.
opinions?
Just FYI I wouldnt mix sram/campy drivetrains.
I bought my whole rival group new for a bit over 600. Im sure you could pick up someones older group for less off fleabay.
Is this late model schwinn at least have a standard size BB?
Personally, I like my sram and hope to buy force when I someday build a new roadie.
Red, Dura Ace and Record are great groups, but they are for pros who get it for free, or Drs/lawyers who wish they were pro and have more $$ to burn. The performance from one level down to the top is hardly worth the $$.
No not mixing drivetrains, campy vs SRAM is what I'm after. Amy said some things about the SRAM shifters(clicks and pops, etc), and yes, standard everything on the schwinn.
I found a deal on some red parts(used) from some lawyer/dr type. And I was looking at chorus or centaur after reading all the forums about differences in shifting, plus, 11 sp sounds baller.
Furthermore, Im getting tired of seeing everyone post rides on this thread and my current friction shifters would get made fun of.
dude, friction is hot. pardon the almost-pun?
but seriously, downtube friction shifters make me hot in the pants...."brifters," not so much. shit's the jam, especially if you're slick with it. theres a much more "real" feeling to it. plus its a helluva lot less of a pain in the ass to set up, especially if you're mixing component groups.
take into account, i also dislike carbon fiber anything,and aluminum, not to mention that wireless dura ace bullshit (yikes!). this slightly influences my tastes in bikes.
speaking of riding.. who wants to do a 3 hour ride with me tomorrow? will be hilly..
M, Both groups at this point are really good, and will last a long while. Both are more repairable than shimano (prolly why youre not looking at them). I wanna try Campy for the fun of it some of the old stuff was quirky (blame that italian design). Yeah, their logo and heritage is sexy, but I like the double tap shifting and that it was at least designed in the US (of course pretty much all groups/components are manufactured in china).
A, Got this job thing goin, otherwise I would think about it.
Interesting the temp is supposed just drop throughout the day, but the rain will let up. So warm and wet or cold and dry? Hm.
Possibly gonna get out and ride Sun, no idea where.
grimm:more repairable than shimano (prolly why youre not looking at them)
yes
from your argument alone, i think i'm going to go with sram. campy has just been a pain in the ass to figure out (without spending $1500-2000 off the bat) and I like that sram was designed in the US, perfect to go with a schwinn lightweight.
From the perspective of dollar to performance ratio, buying a grouppo alone, Rival makes the most sense by far.
SRAM will be easier to deal with. Just finding campy compatible wheels is enough of a pain in the ass..
I've never ridden Shimano on a road bike, so I don't know how it compares, but i like SRAM.. it doesnt shift for shit once your cables get a lil dirty, but i figure that's to be expected.
Other than the shifters, every part of the rival group is cheap to replace.. I.E. $70 rear derailleur vs. $120 campy derailleur.
grimm:Possibly gonna get out and ride Sun, no idea where.
Ben I would love to ride Sunday my friend.
I had a chance to ride 105 for a weekend. I gotta say it shifted really nice, prolly smoother than my SRAM. But the guy who set it up is also way more skilled dialing in his shifting too. I didnt like having the two levers on the brifter, and the shift cable coming out the sides (versus under the bars) just pisses me off (I know shimano just fixed that this year).
Blake, cool. Thinking gettin some miles in. 50-60 or so. Maybe try something new out. Either look up something in rubbertotheroad.com or maybe we can get Sean and his Dad in on it and drive up to the 'Couv.
FSA cranksets?
Their older track cranks were prone to problems; carbon spider=bad idea and ISIS interfaces can suck it. Cant really speak to the new and road stuff. I personally still like FSA and wouldnt mind trying their stuff again.
SRAM cranks are good, but torque that mofo 8mm bolt down like it owes you money (I have dropped a crank arm before). I heard the new cranks have an extra bolt to make sure the cranks cannot come off unintentionally now.
im looking at fsa road stuff, the gossamer looks affordable.
there's some used sram rival cranks at the veloshop in the case for $40
the fsa gossamers are what ive got on the redline. havent had any problems with them.. i always use a torque wrench to put them back on though to avoid creaking..
they're generally really affordable, if it doesn't irk you to have a mis-matched drivetrain..isn't that why most prebuilt bikes, even with 105/ultegra/rival come with them?
Happened to see this on VeloNews, thought of this discussion. Never heard of this brand, but I welcome competition to the gruppos.
http://velonews.competitor.com/2010/01/bikes-tech/sampson-aims-high-for-2010_102219
[quote][cite] miguelaron:[/cite]FSA cranksets?[/quote]
The cranks aren't that bad but in my experience, FSA's bottom brackets suck. Not too durable, not too smooth. I'd just match the crank with whatever group you get.
I think I'm sold on rival
The SLK cranks are absolute shit. I have the team issue carbon cranks on the road bike, and they seem decent.
grimm:Happened to see this on VeloNews, thought of this discussion. Never heard of this brand, but I welcome competition to the gruppos.
http://velonews.competitor.com/2010/01/bikes-tech/sampson-aims-high-for-2010_102219
that's the same as the "forte" shit posted in epic fails... same stuff rebranded..
kinda late coming into this, and it seems like youre sold on rival (which Ive liked a lot the limited times Ive ridden it) but I got a good deal on my Ultegra 6600/6700 mix and have had no problems with it at all and really like it. the shifting feels really, really good. Ive also ridden chorus a little and it felt good, but I didnt like the little thumby lever on the brifter, although I'm sure youd get used to it if you had it, and Im just used to shimano STI shifting.
edit: oh yeah and the 6700 cranks are stiff as balls. they rival my omniums which are like the stiff(est?) track crank/bb available
I ride a campy bike, with record shifters and a chorus crankset. It's smooth as butter and I love the fact that each lever on campy shifter does one thing and one thing only. Plus, with campy you can sweep your gears both directions, which I think is only possible on newer dura ace (might be wrong).
That being said, campy is expensive as hell and if I did it all again I'd go sram.
PS: Build your own rear wheel, it's not hard. Campy hubs are available in full force on the interwebs. 11 speed is just too many gears and the chain gets really specific. With 9/10 speed you'll be better off. (on my campy 9 speed I have a sram 9 speed chain and it works splendidly).
The chain is specific for anything more than 8 gears. So I don't see how an 11 speed chain is any worse than having to get a 10 speed chain or a 9 speed chain. and any chain works. Campy chains are stupid expensive (compared to the price of a dura ace chain) and a sram or shimano chain will work fine on any brand.. Everything 8 gears and less is 3/32nd and takes the same chain.
11 speed is nice but it'll get a lot cheaper in a couple years, so unless you're racing, I don't see the point in investing in 11 speed unless you hve a stupid amount of money to spend.
Campy hubs aren't hard to buy new.. they aren't as readily available used though and they are more expensive. More companies make shimano wheels and some really nice stuff (i.e. chris king) doesn't come in campy. If you ever are, racing, for example, a lot of races have neutral wheels and they're all gonna be shimano (esp in cross, cuz shimano sponsorship)
Campy can only be mixed in a few ways. I.e. shimano cranks, front derailleurs, diff chain, etc.
I think I'd probably go with shimano if I was building from scratch, but SRAM is efinitely cheaper in the long run.. easy to maintain.. and the shifters are rebuildable (unless you do what i did and when you fall the shifter body falls completely out of your shifter and the whole thing breaksi n half)
marshall:edit: oh yeah and the 6700 cranks are stiff as balls. they rival my omniums which are like the stiff(est?) track crank/bb available
Anything w/ an external BB these days will be so stiff you wont be able to tell, especially since you are like what 140lbs?